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Re: Talking about not talking

@Former-Member I'm glad that you've found a way to speak up and feel some level of being listened to.
Definitely sucks that it's now led to being expected to explain yourself.

What is it about them that you think might be causing difficulty in communicating?

I have long thought of verbal and written language to be ineffective, although I know some people have great success with it. 

Verbally, I struggle. I hit the wall of "I don't know" and can't think my way past, through or around it. I take full responsibility for this part of the communication failure, and as a result I usually don't choose to talk about things that are troubling me in that medium.

With the written word, I seem to hit a brick wall. I don't want to have to explain every single thing if I'm feeling any level of distress. I don't want to dance the line of appropriate phrasing. I'm not good at talking about feelings - as I said previously, I don't have the right words to talk about things. I can talk about how I want to react to the feelings, but that's usually not acceptable to talk about.

Talking to helplines with the written word is almost guaranteed to lead me to frustration. I typically feel as though I'm talking to an empty vessel. It would be less frustrating to talk to a square of carpet because at least then I wouldn't be hoping for understanding from the other party. If I wanted to talk in English with something that didn't really understand what I was saying and didn't have anything helpful to add, I could find an online chatbot.

As an aside that will mean nothing to anyone but myself, contrary to what one person has absurdly suggested, "a supplement" is not a more general way of saying "an online helpline service" when trying to discuss how unhelpful the latter has been. I can only hope that this suggestion was born of doing multiple things at once, because in common understanding there is no way that one could be expected to mean the other.

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Hi @TheVorticon, It sucks that you don't feel like you can talk about what's going on for you. I hear you when you say that taking a risk and finding the conversation unhelpful is not the worst thing that can happen. I know the phrase "what's the worst that can happen" is often used to challenge catastrophic thinking. However, sometimes the worst really is super bad. Therapist-take-eleven used that phrase when I initially spoke to her on the phone and I was trying to decide whether to make an appointment. She asked me what the worst was that could happen and I told her "well you could further traumatize me and I will be left looking for therapist-take-twelve in an even more traumatized state than I am right now." And as it turned out the worst did happen. Indeed, I could never have envisaged how bad that worst could be!!!! So yeah, I'm not a fan of that phrase.

It must feel super isolating not being able to express what's going on for you. I know some people find it helpful to express themselves through art or some other creative outlet. Personally I am very much a words person and I can write prolifically. However, there seem to be quite a few people around here who express themselves more through art and mediums like that.

Anyway, I really just wanted to let you know that I agreed with what you said about how trying something and finding it unhelpful is not the worst thing that can happen.

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Thanks for sharing that and letting me know that you have similar thoughts about that @Phoenix_Rising.

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I had to do a thing today. It was something that would usually be a good thing, but in my unique way I managed to make it turn out not so great and as something I'm rather disappointed with.

My parents knew about the thing and have been calling to ask how it went, likely expecting a level of happy enthusiasm. I've been ignoring their calls because I don't know how to fake "yeah it was great" and if they ask about a specific part of the thing then the answer is disappointing.

I have to call them tonight but don't want to put my game face on to do it.

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@TheVorticon - sorry to hear you're feeling disappointed and maybe frustrated with how the thing went today. It's hard being stuck between feeling a need to put on a mask/face etc thing for other people, or share disappointment.

I hope your call with your parents goes/has gone ok.

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Thanks @CheerBear. It went ok. They asked about one of the particular things but not the other more-disappointing thing. So wasn't too bad.

I still feel like a useless failure compared to what I should be. I try not to be.

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I would like to respond in fact tried twice

guess what

I failed twice

judgement coming from myself

I am not feeling too bright at the moment and feel that whatever I say will just be misunderstood...so better I just tell you that I am not talking at the moment 

we are so hard on ourselves

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That's ok that you haven't been able to reply @Former-Member. Thanks for letting me know. I understand the expectation of being misunderstood and how that makes it all the more difficult to try. No need to pass negative judgement on yourself over "not talking " here. It's all g.

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Thank you @TheVorticon

didn't mean to come across as so gloomy 

am feeling that dreaded beginning of depression looming again so working very hard at not allowing it to take hold

hope that you have had some relief..some better moments

take care

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Thanks @Former-Member. I hope you've been able to keep the depression off your back last nigth and today.